tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post722659933612911958..comments2023-11-05T23:07:01.842+11:00Comments on Grog's Gamut: On the QT: I am confected with outrageGreg Jerichohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04956402439870441083noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-54282707443662353322011-03-23T18:54:48.984+11:002011-03-23T18:54:48.984+11:00Irony: A skywriting plane burning fossil fuel ove...Irony: A skywriting plane burning fossil fuel over Canberra today to write "No tax Julia" for Abbott's latest stunt. I doubt there were many pilots in the crowd, though.Jaegernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-49243223271917313122011-03-23T18:48:37.926+11:002011-03-23T18:48:37.926+11:00Anon @ 1:45pm: Yes, it's a pity that Godwin&#...Anon @ 1:45pm: Yes, it's a pity that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law" rel="nofollow">Godwin's law</a> isn't one of the standing orders. "Mr Speaker, on a point of order. The member for Sturt used a Nazi analogy; I move that the member no longer be heard."Jaegernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-53765811028407508082011-03-23T17:59:09.019+11:002011-03-23T17:59:09.019+11:00Pyne is a pratt? Presumably you don't mean a p...Pyne is a pratt? Presumably you don't mean a person who would trash his reputation to squeeze out another few mill ,rather a cocky foolish and annoying person - which fits Pyne well. In other words, a prat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-16045758441212141642011-03-23T17:09:00.565+11:002011-03-23T17:09:00.565+11:00Grog - You also missed the comments and shouts fro...Grog - You also missed the comments and shouts from the Opposition which were not broadcast but which, to somebody who can read lips, were offensive in the extreme. In addition to Pyne's reference to "harriden" another of the words shouted across the chamber was "bitch". Strangely, and obviously a huge coincidence, at today's rally outside Parliament one of the signs read "witch".<br />The use of inflammatory signage and abusive language seems to be the pattern now associated with the protests associated with the Opposition.<br />To my mind much of the language and imagery directed at Julia Gillard is the same abusive language reported in cases of domestic violence. Perhaps the Opposition came under the thrall of Alexander Downer's reference to "the things that batter" which brought about his demotion some years back.<br />I have issues with Harry Jenkins control of QT from time to time. It seems to me that he sometimes errs in his directions and admonitions by a wish to appear as "one of the boys". <br />It was also be better if he refrained occasionally from unnecessarily interrupting the Prime Minister's responses to questions, which sometimes has the effect of impeding a very good response.Alistair Baillieu-McEwannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-74147840164410216352011-03-23T16:11:55.714+11:002011-03-23T16:11:55.714+11:00Good QT for the government today esoecially re car...Good QT for the government today esoecially re carbon. Good to see them taking on Bluescope's bullshit too.<br />I can visualize the coalition trying to extricate themselves from the mess they've got themselves into but can't visualize how they might do it.Essendeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-7860281267924589712011-03-23T16:06:21.695+11:002011-03-23T16:06:21.695+11:00FWIW: a quick google search show following numbers...FWIW: a quick google search show following numbers:<br /><br />Holocaust denier: 3,080,000<br />Climate change denier: 6,620,000Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696088895452914261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-85608193620631746352011-03-23T15:22:20.005+11:002011-03-23T15:22:20.005+11:00Not sure if the typo will be there later, but it s...Not sure if the typo will be there later, but it seems The Australian has made a little embarrassing mistake referring to Ms Abbott...<br /><br />http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/carbon-tax-protesters-labelled-extremists-as-they-rally-in-canberra/story-e6frg6xf-1226026721285<br /><br />“It's an appeal to extremism. And extremism will always be there in our community, but that doesn't mean we should agree with it or we should give way to it.”<br /><br />Ms Smith responded to the claim, saying Mr Champion “should come down and have a talk to the people that are here”.<br /><br />"After some initial confusion over whether he would speak at the rally, <b>Ms Abbott's </b> office obtained a parliamentary “pair” from Labor so the Opposition Leader could attend without the risk of missing a parliamentary vote."<br /><br />About half way through the article.Adamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-81096524621563403362011-03-23T15:21:34.416+11:002011-03-23T15:21:34.416+11:00Pyne has been suspended from the House for 24 hour...Pyne has been suspended from the House for 24 hours as from approx 3.12pmCasablancanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-76566008112935662252011-03-23T14:43:30.795+11:002011-03-23T14:43:30.795+11:00The 11:22 anonymous. My wife sent a comment to 7:...The 11:22 anonymous. My wife sent a comment to 7:30 following that interview, complaining about Uhlmann's behaviour. It was disgraceful.Johngnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-85074712378692148712011-03-23T13:45:00.687+11:002011-03-23T13:45:00.687+11:00In my experoence, as soon as anyone mentions '...In my experoence, as soon as anyone mentions 'Hitler' or 'Holocaust' they have lost the argument.<br />Jenkins should have thrown Pyne out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-27999502627044266352011-03-23T10:21:08.914+11:002011-03-23T10:21:08.914+11:00Thanks for the list of Pyne's objections in pa...Thanks for the list of Pyne's objections in parliament. It allowed renewed appreciation of Lindsay Tanner's skill.<br />Barnaby Joyce - "the bearded lady of Australian politics" is brilliant.ernmalleyscatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-26236446491969271552011-03-23T08:19:38.672+11:002011-03-23T08:19:38.672+11:00The issue was raised this morning on the 7 morning...The issue was raised this morning on the 7 morning show, from what I could tell after some discussion they all decided that Pyne was a pratt (they actually used the word pratt)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-29729523547337551022011-03-23T07:18:09.990+11:002011-03-23T07:18:09.990+11:00Anon, my family have come to understand that there...Anon, my family have come to understand that there is something slightly odd about me :-)<br /><br />Patricia, Pyne may wish to have it withdrawn, but I shall allow it!Greg Jerichohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04956402439870441083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-62987153550499871362011-03-23T02:01:13.156+11:002011-03-23T02:01:13.156+11:00Well done Grog. Do you think Mr. Pyne would object...Well done Grog. Do you think Mr. Pyne would object to this?<br /><br /><br />Our PM may, or may not be, a liar.<br />But with leadership ratings always dire,<br />Consistently refusing to retire,<br />Tony Abbott is a Newspoll denier.Patricia WAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-59225940269654322442011-03-23T00:29:31.361+11:002011-03-23T00:29:31.361+11:00Personally I found the Ju-liar tag far more offens...Personally I found the Ju-liar tag far more offensive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-11618167488426220032011-03-22T23:22:44.954+11:002011-03-22T23:22:44.954+11:00After watching Chris Uhlmann interview Bob Brown o...After watching Chris Uhlmann interview Bob Brown on 7.30 tonight, I look forward to Uhlmann's forthcoming interviews with the Opposition (have there been any yet? I may have missed them), where he interrupts and tries to play gotcha politics in search of a headline. Brown pulled him up nicely tonight, reminding him that the main event is not that Gillard broke an electoral promise, but the pros and cons of an ETS and a carbon tax. <br />Policy? Did someone say policy? Uhlmann restrained himself after that - presumably the producer had a word in his earpiece.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-80395315427862674742011-03-22T23:16:56.572+11:002011-03-22T23:16:56.572+11:00Lordy, Grog! It was insane enough that I used to h...Lordy, Grog! It was insane enough that I used to have to watch QT as part of my job when I was in the Parliamentary Liaison section of a dept in Canberra, in case anything of portfolio relevance arose. Your recording and watching it after work is going above and beyond the call of any blog. How has your family not moved out? That said, many thanks to you (and commiserations to them) for your personal sacrifices on behalf of all of us who cannot face the thought of enduring it ourselves.<br /><br />On the polls, the Opposition is heading towards a rather interesting position. Abbott is trying to walk on both sides of the fence (ie there is no climate change but we have a policy to address it anyway) and is now showing regularly and indisputably as electoral poison. Replacing him with a climate change non-rejectionist (formerly known as a non-denier) like Turnbull would be to admit that Abbott's policy was wrong (and unsupported by the party). Apart from being untenable to the likes of Jensen, Mirabella and the ilLiberal right and thus splitting the party, and throwing the likes of Murdoch, Akerman, Devine, Bolt, the Oz (Mitchell), Pell, Jones, and the the and the rest of that noise into disarray, it would also mean the Opposition would have to find a new poster policy to differentiate itself from the Government.<br />Of course the polls could be all wrong this week and revert again next week. Meanwhile, the farce continues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-69459562463263374132011-03-22T22:51:07.058+11:002011-03-22T22:51:07.058+11:00Yet again I'm consistently impressed every tim...Yet again I'm consistently impressed every time I read your blog. I loved the 6 pt Newspoll comparison....gold!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00837009828239421761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-22413572926851525012011-03-22T21:58:16.744+11:002011-03-22T21:58:16.744+11:00Mr Tiedt - you could be right but Possum's tre...Mr Tiedt - you could be right but Possum's trend graph does show some definite movement across all the polls.Greg Jerichohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04956402439870441083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-87574835061548552612011-03-22T21:33:34.410+11:002011-03-22T21:33:34.410+11:00Yes, school is well and truly in down at the natio...Yes, school is well and truly in down at the nation’s capital. Maybe Mr Jenkins could gently remind Mr Pyne that the Oscars have already been handed out. When MPs become stressed like Mr Pyne is they usually undertake a fact-finding-mission to Paris, Rome, London, Vienna, and New York. Those locations yield an unending supply of facts on all manner of things but there is no need for an MP to burden the taxpayers with all those facts upon their return to Oz. Of course Mr Pyne should not attempt this type of therapy unescorted so it’s only natural that his spouse/partner accompany him.<br /><br />Do we pay them enough?Sir Ian Crispnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-3302764852320355502011-03-22T21:29:07.800+11:002011-03-22T21:29:07.800+11:00On a minor note it took a couple of emails to ABC ...On a minor note it took a couple of emails to ABC News online this morning before they bothered to report on the Newspoll results. I suspect if some of us hadn't whinged the Liberal Party stooges that make up their newsroom would have let it slide on by.Lloydnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-12226247830961714012011-03-22T21:28:22.490+11:002011-03-22T21:28:22.490+11:00To my mind, when a poll number falls six points an...To my mind, when a poll number falls six points and then gains six back in the next poll the obvious explanation (in the absence of any massive events moving public opinion) is statistical noise... Sometimes the sample is not perfect.<br /><br />Anyway, alls well for Labor. Federally, at least...Mr Tiedthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17655292171719390972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-23480485512981188412011-03-22T21:23:20.724+11:002011-03-22T21:23:20.724+11:00I was watching question time and thought it absolu...I was watching question time and thought it absolutely outrageous that the speaker would prevent the govt. using the term 'climate deniers' for the stated reasons. Jenkins needs his head read - his decision was totally absurd. It was a big score by Pyne though. No doubt he couldn't believe his luck.<br /><br />Unrelated, Graham Kraehe, Chairman of Blue Scope Steel was on National Press Club Address (ABC 24) today and was particularly impressive. Worth watching if you can catch a repeat. Main message was 1)he claimed that his business won't be protected against non carbon taxed imports with the proposed system 2) this government (and the Rudd Govt) are totally shithouse at communicating with industry, the govt's round table discussion on carbon tax is a total joke, but he emphasised that he had a lot to do with the Hawke/Keating govt who he said were extremely good at communicating with industry (good old John Button).Gordicansnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-55100520396639707412011-03-22T21:19:02.686+11:002011-03-22T21:19:02.686+11:00Perhaps he'd prefer 'flat-earthers'. N...Perhaps he'd prefer 'flat-earthers'. No Holocaust connotations there.Kerryn Goldsworthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11270814460793882309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-5822900572383780792011-03-22T21:11:40.483+11:002011-03-22T21:11:40.483+11:00Oops, sorry about the apostrophe.Oops, sorry about the apostrophe.Turnerettinoreply@blogger.com