tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post3909756470184436861..comments2023-11-05T23:07:01.842+11:00Comments on Grog's Gamut: Election 2010: Day 21 (or who needs perspective?)Greg Jerichohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04956402439870441083noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-8366849943215646142010-08-12T12:22:15.334+10:002010-08-12T12:22:15.334+10:00Well Grog, Paul Murray writing for the West Austra...Well Grog, Paul Murray writing for the West Australian (that well known right leaning rag) knows why the complaint rate was less than 3%in the BER. Apparently noone ocmplains when they get money thrown at them.<br /><br />Us dummies thought it was because they got something they wanted, or didn't complain because they had nothing to complain about!wizmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-20900156002051020352010-08-07T12:32:50.198+10:002010-08-07T12:32:50.198+10:00Excellent, well written and sensible.
Only thin...Excellent, well written and sensible.<br /><br /><br /><br />Only thing even clearer after the fuss is how Australia needs a public process assesment process. <br /><br />Need a lists of projects which need, should or can be done. (OK even a few dreamy ones would not hurt here.)<br /><br />Each of these should be with a summary for each project of details, where, when, cost [e$timate], benefits-to-infrastructure, benefits-to-society, with parts of cost to be met by who - Commonwealth, State, Local Government, Corporation or other interest groups. <br /><br /><br />From such list our politicians can consult community then make their political decisions.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10785625701453034739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-52778883997599852442010-08-07T11:45:18.446+10:002010-08-07T11:45:18.446+10:00If anyone out there reading works for the Labor Pa...If anyone out there reading works for the Labor Party, can you please research Tony Abbott's budget vs actual performance as minister - I would be staggered if every one of his programs came in under budget - which is apparently now the gold standard of ministerial competence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-49206459322295346952010-08-07T11:44:19.610+10:002010-08-07T11:44:19.610+10:00Courier Mail headline: "When it's OK to b...Courier Mail headline: "When it's OK to blow $1.1B."philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12011647023598364166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-26225060082703018662010-08-07T11:35:34.045+10:002010-08-07T11:35:34.045+10:00I agree with other posters. I feel like I am livin...I agree with other posters. I feel like I am living in some sort of parallel universe, where people are criticised for doing good and praised for doing evil. I saw an Age on-line heading that said something like "Report shows BER 12% waste" with the story then going on to "clarify" that it was "between 0-12%" - just a minor difference! What none of the media have picked up is what I heard Orgill himself say "there was no waste"!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-67594762679015706212010-08-07T09:50:04.344+10:002010-08-07T09:50:04.344+10:00Grog, I'm amazed you can sound so calm and col...Grog, I'm amazed you can sound so calm and collected over this. I'm spitting chips myself.<br /><br />The glass is 98.5% full, yet all the media concentrated on was the tea leaves in the bottom of the cup. The coverage has been decided, the headlines written. "Waste" is the name of the game, despite all the benefits of the BER program. It really does make you sick at heart to see it.<br /><br />Take a look at the front pages this morning, Saturday. Hardly a word about the BER. The centrepiece of the Coalition's attack on the government for the past six months has disappeared. The refutation of the Coalition's argument that it contained is dismissed in a puff of smoke. The caravan has moved on. "Rudd: The Soap Opera" resumes. The punters are left with their doubts reinforced by an egregious, mass, groupthink brainfart from the media that says 200,000 jobs aren't enough. Australia the envy of the world isn't enough.<br /><br />And yes, the tradie who came to my house yesterday was exactly how HBS described him. He'd worked on both the batts program and the BER, employed 8 people, made a fortune... and is voting Liberal.<br /><br />I gace myself the small satisfaction of ringing him up and telling him his quote was too high, but in a booming economy he didn't sound like he cared. He's alright Jack. He got through the GFC and now he's going to take to the government that did it for him and vote them out of office.<br /><br />As I said at the outset, I wish I could be so calm about it as you sound.Bushfire Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-27221883047400388742010-08-06T23:59:56.605+10:002010-08-06T23:59:56.605+10:00I made the mistake of reading the comments on the ...I made the mistake of reading the comments on the News Ltd website article on the BER. Apparently this was a colossal waste of cash and the report was doctored by Gillard to blame the states. Labor governments do nothing but wreck the country and stop people getting ahead. <br /><br />All this from one report. Based on the sort of things that are smaller than rounding errors.<br /><br />If Tone and the economic illiterates get in, you'd have to wonder what these people are going to do when something gets really messed up. No doubt find some new scapegoats.SMhttp://sminney.posterous.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-37473562163390632972010-08-06T22:39:32.865+10:002010-08-06T22:39:32.865+10:00Do you know what the really obscene upshot of the ...Do you know what the really obscene upshot of the BER project is? Those 'tradies' that listen to Ray Hadley while they are working on the BER projects will probably vote for the Coalition in the upcoming election. Ungrateful ingrates.<br /> It makes me want to cry that a few demagogues could sway people to vote against their best interests.Hillbilly Skeletonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-85974161505859872412010-08-06T22:25:23.189+10:002010-08-06T22:25:23.189+10:00Oscar Wilde spoke about those "who know the p...Oscar Wilde spoke about those "who know the price of everything and the value of nothing" <br /><br />None more so than those that don't grasp the importance of Orgill and Stiglitz's observations relative to Australia's response to the GFC.<br /><br />Except that results count.Apparently, all of us know that.<br /><br />Like cranky, demanding kids we want more. And if we consent to that we have given up our roles as parents, as leaders.<br /><br />This is bullshit. The facts speak and they speak independently of spin offered by both parties.<br /><br />Like your kids orienteering or running race. Is it important they try and succeed or is it important that some weird, self interested parent cuts them down with a sideline remark.<br /><br />It's important to know when we are winning.Darryl Snownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-37363362825993408372010-08-06T22:07:08.489+10:002010-08-06T22:07:08.489+10:00"Because the rest of the world is looking at ..."Because the rest of the world is looking at us in awe and wonder and envy."<br /><br />... and will look at us as a bunch of ill informed, inbred, ingrates who obviously don't have enough toes and fingers to count properly if we think we're under invasion from boat people and drowning in debt.P.M.Newtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08824714562191562113noreply@blogger.com