tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post4653531393319430936..comments2023-11-05T23:07:01.842+11:00Comments on Grog's Gamut: On the QT: Speculation, gravitas and the honest truthGreg Jerichohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04956402439870441083noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-14045781327906483792010-10-28T16:21:27.006+11:002010-10-28T16:21:27.006+11:00From the post...
"The only dopey reporting o...From the post...<br /><br />"The only dopey reporting on Greens leadership challenges thus far has been limited to “speculation” that Lee Rhiannon will challenge Bob Brown for leadership went she comes in next July."<br /><br />This will be dredged up again in June probably. The only reason I can think of that Rhiannon would want the leadership position would be if from there she could abolish it (and she couldn't). There are some very uninformed opinions about The Greens being run out there.<br /><br />The most disturbing point about this current situation is that the journalists reporting clearly aren't connected on the inside of the party and so when they need an angle they are clearly just making shit up: Imagined factions; Leadership struggles; You name it.Sam Bauersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-30662971448534975832010-10-28T16:12:16.157+11:002010-10-28T16:12:16.157+11:00Andrew, the post you link to on your own site says...Andrew, the post you link to on your own site says nothing about Rhiannon's competence or work ethic in regards to policy.Sam Bauersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-51400872316490302322010-10-27T17:51:46.258+11:002010-10-27T17:51:46.258+11:00Patrick, I certainly ridicule linking the ASX take...Patrick, I certainly ridicule linking the ASX takeover with the death penalty. As to the broader linking of ecnomic policy with human rights, my observation was more that it is yet another example of how the Greens don't play by the same rules the majors do. (and seem to be doing very well by doing so!)<br /><br />I don't generally agree with the linkage, but in some cases it may have merit. Not in the ASX case though (IMO)Greg Jerichohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04956402439870441083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-71383485631815845332010-10-27T14:35:59.872+11:002010-10-27T14:35:59.872+11:00I find it sad that you ridicule the notion of link...I find it sad that you ridicule the notion of linking human rights to economic matters. Of course they *are* linked, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. You can choose to strengthen unpleasant regimes by trading with them, or you can choose to take a more principled stance and - at a minimum - highlight issues of human rights. Lately the fashion appears to be to buy into the Chinese/SE Asian line that human rights are relative rather than universal.Patrick Batemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-9731510325590715732010-10-27T13:56:53.148+11:002010-10-27T13:56:53.148+11:00Sam, I stand by it: http://andrewelder.blogspot.co...Sam, I stand by it: http://andrewelder.blogspot.com/search?q=rhiannonAndrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-12379523598460268842010-10-27T11:47:21.208+11:002010-10-27T11:47:21.208+11:00The Greens didn't have a "spill". It...The Greens didn't have a "spill". It was a routine election of party room positions. Same thing happened after the 2007 election and no one seemed to care back then that Rachel Siewert challenged Milne for the Deputy position.<br /><br />Then again, "spills" are all the rage these days. Makes for good news fodder. It's no wonder the press weren't let in on the fun.<br /><br />The culture of The Greens is that competition is encouraged in internal elections. It helps build candidate experience.<br /><br />I'll reserve my judgements on individual Senators, but to Andrew Elder who called Lee Rhiannon a "show pony", you are seriously mistaken. She may not be working on policy that you like, but policy work is exactly what she is best at. If her time in NSW parliament is anything to go by, she's going to be formidable in the Senate.Sam Bauersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-49060919796450257472010-10-27T10:38:27.401+11:002010-10-27T10:38:27.401+11:00I don't quite understand all the implications ...I don't quite understand all the implications of Singapore's stock exchange taking over the ASX. I've seen a bit of nationalistic scare mongering, but since it seems to be going ahead, there has to be something in it for Australia? What purpose will it serve to allow this kind of merger?datebiskotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-25669843501948898922010-10-27T10:34:26.437+11:002010-10-27T10:34:26.437+11:00Great summary of the day's events as aways.Great summary of the day's events as aways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-28548571254603054592010-10-27T09:11:53.949+11:002010-10-27T09:11:53.949+11:00I think Joe should start relying on the if I didnt...I think Joe should start relying on the if I didnt write it down dont believe it. NOt because he is more untrustworthy than any other politician but because he cant communicate it unless scripted. That should keep him out of trouble. <br />If any of the Canberra journos had bothered to give the Greens any decent coverage during the election they would certainly have some better connections. This really was a non event. <br />Deciding ecomonic matters on human rights should be interesting for ongoing dealings with China in the 'new paradigm'Soniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02129398639035921852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-76453200447631888212010-10-26T22:21:13.127+11:002010-10-26T22:21:13.127+11:00> Samantha Maiden's tweet "When are Gr...> Samantha Maiden's tweet "When are Greens going to..."<br /><br />I like the way the journos imply it's the pollies fault they (the journos) didn't know what was going on.<br /><br />> only took seven years and a John Howard autobiography for “the honest truth” to come out<br /><br />Didn't come out in the apologia - sorry, I meant autobiography, did it?raucoushttp://raucoustorque.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-9208983361517298802010-10-26T22:13:30.813+11:002010-10-26T22:13:30.813+11:00First, Julia Gillard becomes PM without asking per...First, Julia Gillard becomes PM without asking permission from the press gallery, now this. <br /><br />Every PM since Billy McMahon courted the press gallery assiduously, it was assumed you just had to do that in order to become PM. Not so - and they've been snippy at her ever since ("are you frustrated that you're not getting your message out?", "look at her earlobes", etc.). <br /><br />This is why there's such an intense focus by pollies on interest rates - maybe the journosphere will all but ignore it, but that will be the story that people hear/see/read, and that's as much cut-through as you can hope for these days. <br /><br />The Greens seem to have replaced the Democrats in having earnest types like Milne and Siewert plugging away on policy, and that should see them right for a while in terms of maintaining one-sixth of the Senate vote each time in each state. SHY doesn't seem to be like that and Lee Rhiannon isn't either; once the showponies have their heads it's all over (I'm looking at you NSD).<br /><br />Good luck tomorrow night.Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8434369190746987531.post-17158279248628981652010-10-26T22:08:45.845+11:002010-10-26T22:08:45.845+11:00Can't help wondering where SHY's pre-empti...Can't help wondering where SHY's pre-emptive solo performance on asylum seeking kids and families being released into the community fits in. And as you say, it would be interestng to know the source of the story. Or more properly, non-story. It would be a pretty dismal party that didn't have a couple of leadership hopefuls/possibles in its ranks.Agnes Macknoreply@blogger.com